Score: 5/5
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Steve: Welcome to everyone to 30 Screams of Less a horror movie podcast where we review horror movies in 30 minutes or less, so you don’t have to.
Today’s movie we’re gonna be reviewing is called The Outwaters, and is streaming [00:01:00] exclusively on Screambox. Outwaters is about four travelers that encounter a menacing phenomena while camping in a remote stretch of the Mojave Desert.
And it basically was supposed to be a simple music video recording and it turns into madness. Written in, directed by Robbie Band, fish Band Fish Banfitch. I think that’s right. Starring Robbie Banfitch, Angela Basolis, Scott Shemel and Michelle May. Once again, this is streaming exclusively on Screambox.
We’re gonna jump into it now. We’re gonna dive into this insanity 30 Screams or Less starts now. Corey, what did you think of this film?
Corey: So I love found footage movies like obviously Blair Witch Project was probably the first film that began the genre. And there’s been a lot of shit ones in the world. Since that came out, but every so often you’ve got like a gem that comes across, and this was one of them. This was one of those movies that made me feel absolutely disgusting as I was watching it. I felt gross when it finished. [00:02:00] I felt like I needed a shower.
Steve: Dude, I feel the same way. The first time I watched it, I was very tired. The whole day I was moving all my shit into my new place. I was exhausted, so had something to eat. I’m sitting there and I’m watching this and I’m like passing out and I’m just like in and out of consciousness and I basically, I fully awake.
To the part we’re obviously gonna talk about later on, but it naturally, when I woke up, my hands were over my mouth at how friggin vile it was. This whole movie, same deal. After I finished watching it, like even that small spurt, I was like, oh, I feel gross. And I actually just watched it again, literally an hour before this podcast, and
I still
Corey: would you do with that?
Steve: Why would I do that? I don’t know.
Corey: Never wanna see this movie again. That’s a good thing in this case, but,
Steve: Yeah. Most of the times when you don’t wanna see a movie again, it’s because it’s [00:03:00] dog shit. It’s not because it fucking, it’s so vile. This movie is out of control. Unreal. I thought it was amazing. So basically they start off playing, you know, it’s found footage like you were saying, Corey. And Yes. Blair, which started kind of the whole genre really.
They kicked off that whole found footage deal. My girlfriend watches found footage, movies, literally all day. It’s like her bread and butter. I don’t dive too deep into them. Some are good, a lot of trash. But this one in particular, like you said, is amazing. I thought it was absolutely amazing.
Corey: This is one of those movies too that shit hits the fan as soon as you hit that play button because all it opens up with those 9 1 1 calls and you hear blood curdling screams as photos of the cast members are just flashing across the screen.
Steve: Oh my
Corey: the tone , for what you’re about to see, but you know, it’s gonna be just awful as soon as the credits roll.
Steve: That is an amazing way to kick off this film because like you [00:04:00] said, it just zero to 60, the film starts and it’s someone crying, like blood curing cries and you hear like just this, I don’t know, almost like this demonic sound in the background when the, like the girl is crying and stuff like that.
It’s crazy. When I heard that right away, I was like, wow, okay. I think we’re in for some fucking insanity here.
Corey: So did you know that all the characters used their real first names, uh, as the actors and actresses?
Steve: You know, looking at the IMDB now for Outwaters, I did not know that. That’s actually a fun little tidbit. That sure does make things a little easy when it comes to like, calling people their names on set. You don’t have to remember any character names. You’re just like calling people to buy their regular names.
Corey: Yeah, I didn’t know that until after I watched it either and I was kind of reading about it, but I thought that was pretty cool cuz Robbie is the guy that decides to remove a body part later on is also the director.
Steve: Yeah, that body part
Corey: We’ll talk about that later on.
Steve: We’ll get, we’ll get to it. We we’re building, we’re [00:05:00] building to it. It’s gonna get there. Honestly I think this one’s gonna pass, our typical 30 minutes a little bit cuz I thought it was fucking great. So I feel it is truly horrifying. The acting in it. This is like a very low budget film.
Obviously it’s found footage. There isn’t a lot of big budget to it. It’s pretty straightforward. It’s almost as if they had like just a friggin camera and they filmed the thing and it’s all kind of just one shot. It’s nothing fancy, no thrills about it.
The actors, they sounded so horrified in this film that I could almost think that. This was actually happening to them because those screams and those cries, and especially when the girl was crying for mommy. Whenever I hear someone crying from mommy in movies or whatever, like, saving Private Ryan, where the medic starts crying for mommy after he gets shot in the stomach, it just like doesn’t sit well with me at all. It’s unsettling.
Corey: Yeah, that one hit hard.
Steve: [00:06:00] Yeah you know that like when someone’s yelling mommy for what presumably may be their last words, that is pure terror. That’s as scared as you’re gonna get.
Corey: Yeah. Didn’t really know what to feel during that scene, cuz not only is the acting top notch and the whole movie was filmed basically in a Desert, and I thought, watching this movie in HD in a desert like that it looked so incredible.
Steve: Yeah, this film looked incredible as well. You know, you see a lot of found footage films, and they do this cheesy thing where they’ll have the record icon and like the frame around it and shit like that. And it’s like, that’s not necessary, that’s not how devices work these days anymore. Maybe in the early nineties, maybe eighties, but not today. So a
Corey: It’s funny you say that because I was a bit confused cuz we’re basically watching memory cards, of this footage, obviously we start with the first memory card in what three I think.
Steve: Yeah, there was three memory cards in total. So yeah, the first one. Pretty [00:07:00] basic stuff. It’s like the friends hanging out. It starts with a pretty happy opening. Robbie’s getting a gift. It’s a backpack with some stuff in it for hiking and, you know, it was a pretty good beginning.
And, uh, was it Robbie’s wife that, they were just hanging out, having fun, things like that. And, pretty straightforward. They have this one friend, Michelle, I believe her name was she was starting off her. Her career as a singer and then they decide, to record a music video and they go off to the desert and they think it’s gonna be this fun time. The group and stuff.
Corey: So did they mention while they were doing all these like preparations and the first memory card that they were going to the Mojave Desert to film a music video? Because I was lost until she started singing. Probably on memory card too.
Steve: Yeah, I wasn’t sure about that either. I think they talked about wouldn’t it be cool to do a music video like this? But then I was connecting those dots that, okay, maybe this is a music video shoot, gone completely wrong and that’s how it transitioned. But it wasn’t really clearly indicated that it was going to be a music video shoot.[00:08:00]
It felt more like four friends going on a road trip and they were maybe gonna go do some filming stuff or just whatever, you know, go camping. Camping, by the way, in the Mojave Desert, probably not a good idea. You get really dehydrated there. Which brings me to an interesting point that dehydration causes madness.
Actually my girlfriend pointed that out is that it can sometimes cause madness. And I think this movie might have to do a lot with someone going mad because it went zero to a hundred, not zero to 60, zero to a hundred on card two. Like it was fine and all of a sudden it’s dark out and someone gets friggin hacked.
Corey: So when they first get to the desert and they’re just like trying to find their campsite, they find that fucking random axe in the ground.
Steve: Yeah. I would’ve peaced out.
Corey: I would’ve been fucking gone.
Steve: Deuces out. I’m like, I’d be like, fuck this, I’m done.
Corey: An axe in the ground in a desert. Naw I’m done. I’m out.
Steve: No, no. I’ve seen those movies before. I’m not doing that. Fuck that. If I seen an axe, just a random axe in the middle of the desert. [00:09:00] Nope. It’s gonna be a bad time.
Corey: So then like they decide to, hang around even though they find this fucking axe in the ground and start setting up their campsites and in the middle of the night while they’re trying to sleep, they start hearing, was it a thunder?
Steve: Yeah, it was like this constant thunder or rumbling or whatever in the distance. And it was weird because Robbie’s wife she was so confused by it. She’s like, what is that? And he is like, it’s thunder. And she’s like, I don’t know. You know, she seemed almost confused by it. I was just like, that just sounds like thunder.
Corey: I thought it was a fucking cannons or some shit at first.
Steve: It did sound like that it sounded like cannons if you were to shoot a cannon, that boom, boom, like that. That’s how it sounded. It didn’t sound like your typical thunder, in the background.
Corey: So after they survived the first night. Then they, decide that what’s his face, Scott finds that hole on the side of a rock and puts his microphone in it.
Steve: Yeah ,he found that hole and he just put his microphone in the rock and it was some crazy noises [00:10:00] coming out of it, and I don’t know what those noises were. Maybe it was something like supernatural or maybe it was some sort of sound that’s meant to cause someone to go crazy or whatever, but he was listening to it and it, obviously it didn’t sound like a normal thing.
And then you have Michelle who’s listening to it like a seashell, just putting her head up against the rock. Speaking of sound, what’d you think of the sound design on this?
Corey: Oh dude the use of sound in this movie is some of the best I’ve literally ever heard in anything they did so well of portraying everything that was going on. The sounds are crisp and clean, even the fucking screeching sounds that were coming outta that rock. That made me want to mute my fucking tv. A lot of the terror came from the sounds in this movie. I think.
Steve: Yeah, so for me, I think a lot of the terror came from the sounds, because there was so much sound going on, especially in the parts where there’s like a lot of flashing and it seems like you’re being transported to a different scene, but the sound was unreal between the cries, the [00:11:00] screaming and also the pinhole light look, that’s terrifying in its own because it gives you a little bit of claustrophobia, it freaks you out. It’s almost like, playing first person shooters or video games, as long as you’re feeling like almost closed in, you get that claustrophobic feel. That’s how you get scared the most.
Corey: So that brings me to like my next point, that whole flashlight thing is that the first time. So what’s his face? I think it was Robbie wakes up and looks outside of the tent and you see it’s clearly his flashlight is making that circle. I think that was the first time we see that guy standing on the top of the hill with an axe.
Steve: Yeah. What the hell was that? It was
Corey: I don’t know, cuz it shows up several times.
Steve: Yeah. And I know towards the end you see a person holding the axe and he is kneeled over. And that’s actually Robby. But he refers to himself and it’s like, this is me. I can’t remember specifically what he said, but I was like, oh my God, is he like insane?
Did he go crazy? And the guy he’s seen on the hill is actually him.
Corey: You know I think you ruined this whole movie for me now. I’m just, [00:12:00] thinking this is all happening because they’re thirsty.
Steve: Probably. Oh, fucking yeah. They were just thirsty. Yep. They were just thirsty the whole time. They went crazy. And that’s the story.
Corey: All right.
Steve: Also makes me wonder too, was this whole movie even real? Because if they went crazy, obviously Robby went psychotic in this movie, and if this was all real, and it wasn’t some sort of fever, dream he went friggin beyond crazy.
He went ballistic and just killed these people and thinking almost everything was fine and everything he was doing was like, right. I don’t know. It almost seemed like he was out of body.
Corey: It’s like the first thing too was the, was it Ang or Michelle in the tent that Robbie ends up murdering with an axe?
Steve: Yeah, I think that was Michelle. She was the only one with, uh, blonde hair. And I remember he’s like trying to see if she’s awake. Actually, I think that was Michelle or if maybe that was his brother. But trying to shake him awake, shake her awake and you see the blood just smear on the back.
Corey: Yeah, and that’s like that whole scene with the axe and the tent.[00:13:00] That whole scene was like pitch black, like there was literally no lighting on the screen. All you can hear is screaming and crying. I had no fucking clue what was going on until the light came on and you saw the blood on the back.
Steve: Yep. And you know what it’s such a different take on horror because if it’s completely dark like that, the scary thing is, picture yourself in the dark and you can’t see a single thing and then all of a sudden someone friggin flies at you in an axe. That’s terrifying because you don’t see it coming.
And it happened so fast because it’s dark, it’s pitch black, and all of a sudden, someone comes running, you can tell they’re running based on the sound and you hear that slice. And I was just like, holy shit. I couldn’t see anything. But you hear it, you’re like experiencing it. It’s wild. It’s a wild fucking scene.
Corey: So that’s when Robbie finds Ang wandering around in the dark out in the desert, covering her own blood and she starts screaming and it sounded like she was like possessed or something.
Steve: Either she was possessed [00:14:00] or Robbie was crazy chasing after her thinking that she was being chased by some sort of demon or whatever, and then she ends up dying. Correct me if I’m wrong, but there was so much chaos happening in one scene. There was just a lot of running.
The camera was shaking like crazy. It was dark. You only saw like pinholes of the people, as if you were like in the middle of the desert late at night. Those little friggin lights anywhere. So you’re just running in the dark. So like it’s expected to be that’s what you would see.
Corey: Yeah, I don’t know, man. Then, like the next scene is when we start seeing those fucking snake things.
Steve: Oh,
Corey: was the most, I, I can’t even tell you something that like freaked me out as, as much as those little snake things did.
Steve: You wanna be freaked out a little bit more. I, I think those snake things weren’t snakes. I think that was flesh.
Corey: Really?
Steve: Yeah. Yeah. If you look at ’em, they’re very flat and they’re making weird sounds that snakes don’t really make like they’re wing like that.
Corey: Yeah. But wasn’t there a scene [00:15:00] more towards the beginning of the movie when they were looking at a snake in this, deciding if it was a rattlesnake or not?
Steve: Yes, they were So, they were looking at that. I was just going, cause like when I saw it, they looked really flat and like bloody.
Corey: That’s the only connection I made to snakes was because maybe, Robby was friggin out and that’s what he was seeing because that’s what they saw when they got to the desert.
Steve: Mm-hmm.
Corey: But these snakes or whatever, were like skinned.
Steve: Exactly. They looked like they were just skinned or something because snakes shed their own skin. That’s nature. But if it was like a bloody skinless snake, that would be crazy. Or maybe because they saw the snakes earlier, that he’s seeing the flesh or maybe they’re end trails flying at him.
If that was the case and he’s seeing end trails, but they’re supposed to be, synonymous with snakes, that would be crazy.
Corey: I didn’t even consider that when I was watching it. I like your theory. It makes a ton of sense, but I didn’t even think of that while I was watching it
Steve: Yeah,
Corey: because he is friggin the fuck out. He’s [00:16:00] seeing shit, you know.
Steve: Oh yeah, he’s gone. He’s clearly out of his fucking mind at this point. You know, if he’s seeing like flat skinless snakes or like end trails or whatever’s flying at him all the time, he’s gone and there’s parts in this movie too, which are just nuts and he starts tearing away at his flesh.
You know, like he, like, he had skin on his feet and he’s just pulling it off. When I saw that, I was like, ugh.
Corey: Yeah, so that’s the start of a that scene. Which do you wanna, do you want to tell them about that?
Steve: Yeah, we can, uh, we’ll get to that scene. But basically from what I remember, he came out of this friggin bloody ass wormhole and when he is out, he starts just peeling away at his flesh. He doesn’t even give a specific reason why. I mean, there’s no dialogue.
It’s just him like, basically crying and freaking out. So he starts pulling off his skin and then as he does that, he gets up and I’m thinking to myself, this dude just pulled off a bunch of layers of skin off his feet. How the hell is he [00:17:00] running around right now? And that in the desert, hot ass desert, skinless feet running around.
And then he see Michelle in the distance and he starts running after her. And it’s weird because the way he’s running, the camera’s like upside down, so the whole image is upside down, him chasing after her. And it’s a wild scene because now, you’re blurring the lines of, is this reality?
Is she already dead or is he kind of seeing her like as a vision?
Corey: I disliked that upside down camera thing so much.
Steve: Yeah. . I bet
Corey: to do a fucking handstand in my living room so I could see what was going on.
Steve: You’re just like, all right, well, I’m gonna just sit upside down on my couch.
Corey: Sorry, Joanne. I’m just gonna stand on my head in the living room. Gotta see what’s going on in this movie.
Steve: I’m, I’m just imagining you just like, fuck it and you’re just do like, you know, you just do like a half back flip and you’re like, no big deal watching tv.
Corey: You kidding [00:18:00] me? My fat ass would knock the house down if I did that.
Steve: Dude, I’d break my fucking neck and I’m not even like, I’d be like, Hey, I’m gonna do a back flip. Oh fuck. I’m dead. My neck, my neck’s broke. Now I’m
Corey: dead.
Steve: Yeah. Fuck. I’m dead now.
Corey: And then you’re obituary. It would just be like Steve did a back flip and broke his neck while trying to watch a movie.
Steve: Yeah. Well, my last words would be like, fuck, I’m dead. That would be engraved on my tombstone.
Corey: Do you ever listen to that band? Fuck ’em dead.
Steve: That’s a band.
Corey: Yeah,
Steve: Oh, wow.
Corey: they look a grind core band. They’re awesome.
Steve: that’s very convenient that I said, fuck, I’m dead. And now there’s a grim core band called, fuck, I’m dead
Corey: Yep. I used to listen to them all the time back in the day. Yeah. Look ’em up. Fuck. I’m dead.
Steve: Fuck, I’m dead. All right. I’m gonna have to check that out. I do enjoy me some grind core,
Corey: Yeah, they have, uh, the album’s called arse to Mouth.
Steve: Arse to mouth.
Corey: Yeah,
Steve: What the fuck is arse? Like ass. But you know, they’re just trying to be like, oh, we’re trying to make sure that our record is sold in stores.
Corey: No, I’m pretty sure that’s like maybe the [00:19:00] English way to say ass
Steve: Oh, good call. Yeah. Like ours, like that.
Corey: Or pirate. The Pirate Way.
Steve: Yeah, the pirate way. Like arse, uh uh, they got me some booty. Oh, I hurt my arse.
Corey: I saw a pirate movie. It was rated R edit,
Steve: Matees edit edit
Corey: Cut the 12 year old shit out.
Steve: But no, we gotta, we gotta, you know, we gotta expand our audience here. You know, they have to hear about this man cutting his dick off.
Corey: Dude, we told people about porridge and now we’re gonna talk about cutting dicks off shark teeth.
Steve: Ohh my God. Oh, that is what I woke up to the first time that this movie was being played. It was crazy because let’s set up the scene. There’s this light, it’s like this crazy light that’s flashing. It’s almost like it’s a strobe light. And then all of a sudden there’s like these white little [00:20:00] lights, like he’s looking up at space.
Corey: Dude, I had no idea what was going on that part.
Steve: Right. And then what happened was he got friggin kicked out and he hits the ground and he’s like coughing up blood or whatever, and he looks in the distance and there’s three poles with his friends and brother’s head on em just hanging out in the desert. Three heads on a pole, on a stake.
Corey: Yeah, it was a very Lord of the Flies ish.
Steve: Yeah, it was very, very fucked up. So naturally that happens and they really zoomed in on those headless, um, heads. No wrong. They really zoomed in on those, uh,
Corey: You could just say, yeah, I was gonna say, you could just say heads instead of headless heads.
Steve: Yeah, headless heads. No, that sounds like a band from the eighties.
Corey: Headless heads.
Steve: I don’t know. That’s, there’s the Talking Heads, but headless heads, I don’t think that’s a thing.
Corey: Your side, your next side project should be called the headless heads,
Steve: Yeah, it should
Corey: or just the next Summoned song is [00:21:00] called Headless Heads.
Steve: headless heads and used food.
Corey: You can’t do that. Hivesmasher did used food.
Steve: So did Drive-By Bukkake.
Corey: Did they? They did used food like 2000, didn’t they?
Steve: Something like that. But then I think what needs to happen is Hivesmasher does used food Drive By, does used food, and The Summoned does used food. And then we have a used food compilation.
Corey: You’re right. They did Used Food
Steve: Yep. Yep. So I think that’s what should be done.
Corey: I’ve known those guys forever. I mean, Brian’s, your brother and I never noticed they both had a song called Used Food.
Steve: Oh, well I think that was the initial plan was a split between Drive By and Hivesmasher, but I don’t think it ever happened.
Corey: So instead they just named the song the same. Okay.
Steve: Yep, exactly.
Corey: All right.
Steve: But hey can make it work. It can still happen three-way split, a three-way dance? You know Drive by Hivesmasher, The Summoned make it happen. Why not?
Corey: I like that.
Steve: I like that idea too. I’ll pitch it. I’ll see what’s up. Because we can take any fucking song and make it called Used Food, whatever.
Corey: You each do your own [00:22:00] version of Used Food.
Steve: Exactly.
Corey: The lyrics can be about porridge
Steve: Porridge. Oh my God. You love fucking talking about porridge.
Corey: Call it used porridge.
Steve: Used porridge or, yeah, we used food. We just talk about porridge. I
Corey: It just sounds like you could just call it used vomit at that point.
Steve: Used vomit. Oh my god.
Corey: It’s basically if the porridge was used, that’s what it would be, right?
Steve: yeah. Well, I mean, if you throw up in your mouth, you swallow it and you throw up again because it was gross. Is that used? Vomit?
Corey: I don’t know, but I could tell you one thing. It’s not gonna be as good the second time.
Steve: No. Uh, that’s gonna be worse. Yeah, that those are leftovers. I don’t want to heat up. Uh oh. We’re gonna be talking about so much stuff. So we got about to make me throw up and then swallow and then throw up again, and then hopefully just we’ll go into it. Let’s get into it.
Corey: We’re talking about Used Food. Let’s talk about, let’s get back to the dick slicing. So why did this dude find a shark tooth [00:23:00] in the middle of the desert?
Steve: I don’t know. Was that a shark tooth or was it an arrowhead, like an Indian arrowhead.
Corey: Could have been that it kind of looked like a shark tooth to me, but it could have been an arrowhead.
Steve: Could have been either one, but essentially I don’t get why he did this. The only thing I can think of is that he was just insane. He was psychotic. He had a psychotic break but there’s no absolute reason as to why. However, there was one scene that may have alluded to it, and I’ll get to that in a second, but just out of nowhere sees the arrowhead shark tooth, whatever it is, picks it up, proceeds to cut off his dick.
And the thing is you weren’t sure what he was doing. You heard the, like, the kind of slicing and he is like, you know, doing the whole crying thing, like the, ugh, you know, that kind of like crazy cry and then he walks away and you see this tube. And I’m like, what the fuck is that? And that’s when I had both my hands over my mouth about the throw up, because I saw
Corey: Didn’t he put it like when it was on the ground, he started like poking it with a stick or his finger or [00:24:00] something.
Steve: Yeah he started playing with it a little bit. He just poked it with his finger and it was like rolling. He cut off his own dick and he was perfectly fine with it, and
Corey: Then after he cuts his own dick off, he decides to fucking slice his stomach open and he pulls out his own intestines.
Steve: Yes, and he pulls out his own intestines and just keeps walking.
Corey: So now this man is completely dickless and he’s walking through the desert with his intestines dragging on the ground.
Steve: Exactly. Yeah. And you see them kind of just sliding out a little bit. It’s fucking horrid looking. It’s an awful looking scene. It’s fucking so violent. It was so realistic looking the effects, the visual effects that were put into this movie are friggin top-notch. Not computer graphics. I’m talking like actual physical, pieces of flesh and all this stuff. It looked fantastic.
Corey: That’s what I was saying earlier, I’d love to know what the actual budget of this film was because, the level of detail and the cinematography. And again, the sound design obviously it wasn’t a lot of money into this cuz it’s an [00:25:00] indie film, but, you don’t see that type of shit in fucking big budget Holly Hollywood movies these days.
Steve: No, in big budget Hollywood movies, they tend to just resort to computer graphics. That’s just like their default, you know, like, oh yeah, we’ll just get the whole, CGI team to just take care of it, throw uh, some sort of random heart in there or whatever.
Corey: No, this film achieved so much with just like sound design and lighting.
Steve: And you know, sometimes that’s all you need
Corey: Yeah. This was this. A lot of directors need to take cues from this movie if they wanna make something scary. You don’t need millions of dollars. You just need good sounds and to know what you’re doing with a fucking light switch.
Steve: Yeah, exactly it seemed like he really knew what he was doing. To have such a dark movie and pin light like that with like such high quality is frigging talent in its own, just like to have that kind of terror, to have that kind of just focus on the actors like that. And not make it look cheesy, like actually make it look like he’s just looking through [00:26:00] the friggin flashlight is amazing.
They did so much with so little on this movie. Clearly. And you know what, there is a couple things that wanted to talk about the Google timer went off already. You know, we already hit, yeah, we already hit 30 minutes.
Corey: Oh, keep going.
Steve: I told
Corey: it doesn’t matter.
Steve: Yeah, I told you we’re gonna exceed, I think, 30 minutes on this one.
Maybe a little bit longer because this movie’s crazy. It leaves so much up to discussion and so much to think about that it’s hard to kind of sum it up in a half hour. Now, there was one thing that kind of dawned on me that may have alluded to why he went psychotic. And that’s what I think happened.
He went psychotic and he just killed everyone. He cut off their heads. obviously cut his own dick off. He friggin cut his stomach open. I don’t know the reason for any of it, but there was one scene where he was brushing something in the dirt and it said restricted access, like restricted only. And then as he walking, he’s [00:27:00] seeing the gas mask, right?
And I’m thinking that maybe they went to shoot a music video at a place where access was restricted for certain reasons. Whether it’s like biological or something of the sorts like contaminated area. And it may have driven him insane.
Corey: That actually makes a lot of sense cuz that was one of the final shots of the movie, right.
Steve: Right right. So I’m thinking that’s how it explains the movie. But I would really need to go back and I kind of don’t want to because the movie’s nuts. I would have to go back and actually see the sign and kind of like freeze it, you know, just so I can read what the hell it says because maybe it is alluding to something that like, it’s gonna cause some sort of dementia or like something of sorts because that’s the only reason I can think of for pure madness so fast in that movie.
Corey: But in the middle of the desert,
Steve: Yeah. Yeah. I guess, you know, like, I mean, think of, back in the I think the fifties or, forties, fifties, they did a lot [00:28:00] of nuclear testing in the desert.
Corey: True.
Steve: So I’m thinking maybe that’s kind of what happened. It was a nuclear test site and it fucked with his brain and that’s what happened.
Corey: I mean, Chernobyl was sort of in an area like that, I guess
Steve: Yeah, so Chernobyl, it’s fucking crazy, man. Crazy stuff. I would love to check it out one day. I think it’s also a bad idea that I do that.
Corey: Chernobyl?
Steve: Yeah, they do tourist stuff.
Corey: Yeah, I know. Just don’t cut your dick off while
Steve: I, I will, I’ll try not to
Corey: That’s, yeah, I’m, sure that would, uh, that’d be a good thing if you tried to steer away from that.
Steve: Yeah, probably a good idea. I mean, I don’t think Robbie’s intent was to shoot a music video and cut his dick off in the process, unless maybe this was the music video.
Corey: How do you even cut your dick off with a shark tooth, or an arrowhead? It’s not like it’s a knife, it’s just a pointy thing.
Steve: Yeah, I mean, it’s slightly serrated. You would really need to be hacking for a while
Corey: Yeah, man.
Steve: like that’s not a quick thing.
Corey: That’d be like cutting through a well done steak
Steve: Yeah, exactly. Ugh. [00:29:00] Ugh, gross and I’m throwing up. Oh my God. Uh, I’m just pic I think I was more grossed out by the well done steak.
Corey: Well, I mean, Cutting through a well done steak with a dull knife.
Steve: A $2 steak. Well done. Ugh.
Corey: That was Robby’s dick. It was dried out cuz he was in the desert and then he just did off with a butter knife.
Steve: Yeah. Yeah, it just, yeah, that’s the equivalent of like just cutting it off with a butter knife. You know, how long it would take to cut off a dick with a butter knife, I would assume quite a while. If anything, it’s gonna hurt like hell because it’s just irritating at first.
Corey: Speaking of irritating, like I’m getting a little, little pain right now as we’re talking about this
Steve: Not sitting well with you. You just keep thinking about dick getting cut off.
Corey: No, I’m good.
Steve: All right. We, we can get past that part because that was the ultimate shock, you know, shock value. Well then, obviously the intestines like towards the whole end was [00:30:00] obviously complete shock value. It was crazy.
Corey: Yeah. Like towards the, like I legit think the last 10, 15 of the minutes of this movie. I had no idea what was happening because was just, it was just like constant camera cuts and lots of darkness. Apparently the director was on acid.
Steve: He had to have been, I think it was like, like it could have been a fever dream the whole time, because he’s in the desert. He’s dehydrated, his brain’s properly frying, and he goes crazy because he’s seeing all these things that don’t exist. And also, speaking of which, did you see the scene where, those snakes we were talking about, they started wrapping around his legs.
Corey: Mm-hmm. Right after he skinned himself.
Steve: Yeah, exactly. Well, like, what the fuck was that
Corey: Uh, I don’t know, dude. a lot, a lot of it can’t be explained, but it was so good.
Steve: It was very good, and I think that’s what I liked about this, is that it’s so up for interpretation, but it’s not like confusing interpretation. It’s like, okay, this is what they’re [00:31:00] presenting us. They’re presenting evidence of the events that transpired.
Doesn’t say okay, this is a story. It’s like, this is what happened. This is what we’re showing you. This is all we have. So, it’s like letting you try to figure out what exactly happened because clearly the cops haven’t figured it out because that’s all they have to go off of for evidence.
Corey: Yeah, true. You know what was one of my favorite things about this movie,
Steve: What’s that?
Corey: it didn’t have a happy ending.
Steve: That’s true. Oh my God, you’re right. You know how many movies, they just kind of have like, not a happy ending, but like an ending with a resolve.
Corey: It’s one of those films where like, we see this man just struggling walking through the desert. Obviously he’s gonna die, he’s gonna bleed out, but man is dragging his intestines along the ground. And then, Obviously he’s fucking hacked his own pecker off at this point, and, uh, he sees that radiation or, or whatever, that gas mask and that sign, and then the screen just fades to black.
Steve: Yeah. Yeah, it’s fucking wild. [00:32:00] I think that might have been one of the reasons for the insanity. I wouldn’t be surprised at that hole that they were like friggin looking into and listening at had some fucking nuclear shit in it that maybe fried his fucking brain.
Corey: Why the microphone thing, picking up all these noises. I, I don’t understand that.
Steve: I don’t understand it either, because who knows, maybe that could have been something like demons, you
Corey: Is this the movie that Screambox told us the guy was open for interviews? Cuz I’d like to talk to this man.
Steve: Yes, they did. So maybe we can talk to this director and be like, okay, we need some explanation here. You got some explaining to do because this movie, there’s a lot up for interpretation and we have to hear from the director. Maybe we can do it like our first ever interview with one of the directors of this fucking amazing movie.
In my opinion. I thought it was great. With that in mind, Corey, what do you give a for a grade.
Corey: This just got five stars, man. Like I was saying before, the use of the sound design, it’s [00:33:00] like some of the best sound I’ve ever heard in any film. I would really like to rewatch this movie again, wearing, a nice pair of headphones, but I’m not gonna do that because fuck this movie and I’m never gonna watch it again.
Steve: Yeah, I don’t blame you. You know? I was leaning more on a 4.5 out of five. I think I might have to come to your level, dude and be like five stars.
Corey: Yeah, this is our second five star movie out of what, nine episodes. I don’t even know where we’re at this point, but yeah.
Steve: Yeah. This will be episode nine,
so.
Corey: um, yeah, so our second five star movie and also our second podcast, which has run well over 30 minutes.
Steve: Mm. And it seems like the ones that are like five out of five are the ones that go longer
Corey: Yep. Yeah. I, I, I really enjoyed this, movie a lot.
Steve: Yeah. I agree with you. If I listened to this on headphones, I probably would’ve lost my mind. I probably would’ve been freaking the fuck out and would’ve been like, Nope, I’m good. I’m done. I’m not listening to any more of [00:34:00] this
Corey: Yeah, my,
Steve: There’s so much going on for audio
Corey: The part with the microphone and the rock, I probably would’ve fucking yeeted my headphones into the street.
Steve: Just, yeet.
Corey: Yeah. I’ve tapped out at that point.
Steve: Like, fuck this, I’m out. I’m done. I’m not dealing with this again.
Corey: Sorry, Robbie. I’m out.
Steve: yeah. Sorry, Robbie, uh, just fend to yourself amongst the donkeys in the desert
Corey: Oh my God, dude, I was watching this movie and my dog freaks out. My dog Freddy freaks the fuck out whenever there’s an animal on screen. Whenever those donkeys kept showing up, Fred lost his goddamn mind.
Steve: There was so, so many asses on that screen.
Corey: But yeah, Fred did not appreciate the donkeys.
Steve: So there actually is one thing I wanted to talk about and you kind of, noted this. I didn’t see this part or maybe I saw it and I wasn’t sure what the hell was happening. Robby teleporting back to his mom’s house?
Corey: Yeah, that was, I think as you said before, was when he came crawling out of [00:35:00] that hole. That was right before that, but still, I think at some part he was. He must have been dreaming or something cuz Yeah, he was at his mom’s house and remember his mother was covered in blood.
Steve: Oh, that’s right. Okay. Yeah, and like it was a little pinhole of his mother’s face.
Corey: Yep.
Steve: Okay. I do remember that part.
Corey: So that was, that was the fourth cast member of this movie. There were literally only four people in this movie or
Steve: know what? Some, um, so like, let’s see, Robbie, Robbie’s mother, the brother Michelle and, yeah. Five. Okay.
Corey: Okay. Yeah. So five people total
Steve: And you know what?
Corey: have been real low
Steve: I know their budget must have been like, let’s do this over the weekend and we’ll get it done. Okay. No, probably not. They probably filmed this over a span of like, you know, a month or something. Who knows? But it’s wild. It was well done. I loved it. Screambox, I think this is the first movie that Screambox is an exclusive to that has been fucking phenomenal.
Corey: And it’s blown up. I’ve seen it all over social media.[00:36:00]
Steve: Yeah, I mean, we were already promoting it and we haven’t seen it, but, you know, found footage, films can be hit or miss. This, uh, was an absolute hit.
Corey: Yeah. I loved it a lot.
Steve: Yeah, I loved it too.
Corey: Probably one of my favorite movies that we’ve watched so far in the podcast. I mean, obviously The Menu, but that’s not really the, or like a horror type film.
Steve: Naa that’s more, suspense, thriller, horror, kind of a bunch of things in one. This is pure, pure horror, and it’s unsettling. It’s violent, it’s gory. It’s psychotic. It’s everything that could mess you up in a horror movie. That’s what this movie.
Corey: Yep. You’ll be thinking about it when it ends, and you
Steve: I sure was.
Corey: a while.
Steve: Yeah. You know what I had to do before this? So remember how I was telling you I woke up to the part where I saw him cutting his dick off, and then naturally, my immediate reaction was hands over the mouth. I’m about to throw up. I was like, Nope. The scene’s coming. I am done Now. I’ve got my fill. I know exactly what to make of this [00:37:00] movie. I don’t need to see that scene again.
Corey: Did you fast forward through it or did you just make that the ending and
Steve: I just made that. I made that the ending. I’m not fast forwarding cuz like I’d be risking seeing something.
Corey: Yeah, but you’d see it and fast forward, you just see the, the dick acting off really quick.
Steve: Yeah. Well yeah, that’s true. Just do it real fast and you just see the fucking hacking real quick. Like, oh great, this makes things that much better.
Corey: I’d like to make an open plea. Also, side note here to the developers of the Screambox app, please make this app functional. It took me like three hours to watch this movie just because the app kept freezing. I’d have to force close it and reopen it, and force close it, reopen it. I tried watching it through a fucking browser. It kept freezing. Uh, I don’t know. Because just, just fix it. Fix it.
Steve: I, I’m sure they’ll fix it. I mean, they’re gonna get like a bunch of subscribers after this. Right,
Corey: Yeah. Yeah. I told, I told, uh, Alex there that they need to fix their app and he’s supposed to talk to their [00:38:00] people, so
Steve: You know, they’re very responsive.
Corey: Yeah, they’re really cool. I like them.
Steve: They are really cool. I’d like to hang out with them sometime.
Corey: Yeah, we almost, we, we were invited to watch a private screening of this movie, remember?
Steve: Yeah. I mean, I would’ve been down, but I was in Bahamas.
Corey: Yeah. That not only that but is two hours away from us on a Thursday.
Steve: Yeah.
Corey: We’re fucking old.
Steve: Yeah, we’re fucking old dude. We’re like, oh, wait a second. You’re inviting us to a screening of this movie so we can review it for our podcast. Eh? I think we’ll go to bed at 8:00 AM or 8:00 PM
Corey: I imagine seeing this in theaters.
Steve: Oh my God. Like on the big screen, dude. Oh geez. This I think could be a movie to see in theaters. Like, put this shit in IMAX.
Corey: Nope. I don’t want to see a fucking IMAX size dick rolling around.
Steve: You don’t wanna see. Oh my God, I think that’d be the first ever IMAX movie in rated. It just has to be rated X or like NC 17. It’s not R it’s exceeding R, in my opinion.
Corey: What is [00:39:00] this rated anyways? Is it R?
Steve: It’s gotta be unrated.
Corey: A hard R.
Steve: It is a fucking hard R soft NC 17, let’s see, what is it rated? Also, taglines. We all die in the dark. Yep. Sounds about right.
Corey: Yep. That’s, uh, that’s about it.
Steve: Yeah, it sums it up. Yep. Um, it doesn’t say it. Um, yeah. Out waters on I M D B. Let’s see. You know what, I’m just gonna look it up real quick. Let’s see Outwaters rating. Fucking doesn’t say it anywhere.
Corey: You’re on IMDB?
Steve: I’m on Google.
Corey: There’s your first mistake. Google’s trash. No, I’m just kidding.
Steve: Where do I go? Duck, duck. Go
Corey: Bing
Steve: bing. Oh, bing. Let’s use Bing. That’s right. Bing should do the trick.
Corey: IMDB doesn’t say it either. Honestly, I’m on their site right now.
Steve: Yeah, I can’t find a rating for this. And you know, in my opinion they probably shaved off an hour of this movie. I bet. Just to make sure it got an R rating. I think it’s one of those deals they probably handed into the, uh, the, you know. [00:40:00] Oh my God. By the way, just looking on Google, the budget for this movie.
You ready for this? $15,000.
Corey: Wow. Okay.
Steve: Yeah, that’s a,
Corey: that.
Steve: That’s a hell of a budget. What did they do? Buy a camera?
Corey: That’s where the money went. They got a 4K camera.
Steve: They had to get that IMAX camera to put this big dick on IMAX. no, but people, I’m, I’m just, you know, people, they did not release this in IMAX. I assure you. This is not a thing, this is us being ridiculous.
Corey: It’s got a 69 rating on Rotten Tomatoes,
Steve: Nice.
Corey: And a rating. The fucking rating isn’t even there. What is happening?
Steve: Dude. It’s unrated. It has to be, the movie’s crazy, everyone. It’s not for the squeamish, for those who have visual audio sensitivity, probably not for you either. But to the rest of you, go for it. Check it out. It’s violent, it’s madness, it’s crazy. It’s [00:41:00] everything.
Corey: Yeah, dude. I don’t know. I can’t find it anywhere. It’s gotta be unrated.
Steve: All right. Someone’s gotta let us know. Hit us up on Twitter or whatever, at us and be like, Hey, figured it out. It’s rated hard R or maybe it’s rated something stronger than a Triple X.
Corey: I mean, it can’t be Triple X. There’s only like one set of boobs in it. So.
Steve: That’s true. Quadruple x for violence.
Corey: Okay. All right, let’s wrap this up. I gotta go play Hogwarts.
Steve: Okay. All right. Yeah, you gotta get to your Harry Potter game there. All right. Geez. Okay. Yeah. Enough
Corey: me free, Steve.
Steve: All right. I’m gonna set you free. We’re not gonna talk about severed dicks anymore.
Corey: Whew. I was getting sick of it.
Steve: Yeah, it’s, it’s a little, a little
Corey: of the Dicks.
Steve: Sick of the dick.
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Corey: Did you see that? We got a message on our Twitter account from SJ Horror fan, and she recommended this movie called, remember it’s a Japanese horror movie on Netflix.
Steve: Really.
Corey: She said We should watch it. She watched it and said it was great. So maybe we can put that on the list.
Steve: All right. Yeah, let’s put that on the list. We got a little bit of a list we’re working on at the moment, so yeah, if you got any, do the same thing. Shoot us a message on, Twitter or add us or whatever. But, with that in mind, everyone, thank you so much for listening to 30 Screams or [00:43:00] Less. I’m Steve.
Corey: And I’m Corey.
Steve: and have a good night.
Corey: You good. You having a freak out moment over there?
Steve: Oh, always.